The Plan

PROPOSED DISCUSSION OUTLINE

As I was reading these blogs I noticed two main, varying threads of thought. There seemed to be a lot of introspection about the way the class is structured or the way our thoughts are being affected by the material, particularly in Caetlin’s blog post as well as my own, whereas there seemed to be a larger focus on speciesism and racism in Ben’s, Amanda Jane’s and Justin’s blogs. The threat of racism seemed most pronounced in Ben’s blog, so I’d like to get him to share some of his thoughts about the way our nation has developed and the ways in which he sees our treatment of animals improving along a parallel track to our treatment of multiple ethnic and racial backgrounds. He also alludes to times he has confronted racists, and I’d like to get some more specific details about his experience and their thought processes. Amanda Jane and Justin both had a strong sentiment running through their blog about separation of animals from humans, and the supposed “right” of humans to treat animals as they pleased. I’d like to move the discussion from the comparison of slavery and slaughter, towards more of the “divine right” of humans to treat animals as they please. Finally, I’d like to open the floor to discussing concerns or fears students may have about the class itself, and the particularly challenging subject matter and at times cryptic format (well, unless of course you read…), and to be open to expressing some personal feelings about the way the material has been weighing on us.

QUOTES

Caetlin:

” He saw the world through glasses literally dense with dust. For some reason Sloat never cleaned his glasses. It was as if he had given up; he had accepted the radioactive dirt and it had begun its job, long ago, of burying him. Already it had obscured his sight” (Dick 73)

“One friend came to visit and said looking out on the soothing view: ‘ And it would have to be a white horse; the very image of freedom…And we are used to drinking milk from containers showing ‘contented’ cows, whose real lives we want to hear nothing about, eating eggs and drumsticks from ‘happy hens’, and munching hamburgers advertised by bulls of integrity who seem to command their fate.” (Walker 8 )

Before this class I always knew in the back of my head that the chickens weren’t given a funeral or anything, I guess what I’m trying to say is, not only with animals, but also with my life, I’m trying to get the dirt off my glasses and really try to see a world outside of my own blinders.

I, like many people, live in a world of my own construction. I see what I want to see, do what I want to do.

Ben:

“As we talked of freedom and justice one day for all, we sat down to steaks. I am eating misery, I thought, as I took the first bite. And spit it out” [Course anthology, p 245F] They are the great-grandchildren of those who honestly though, because someone taught them this “Women can’t think,” and “niggers can’t faint.

” But most disturbing of all, in Blue’s large brown eyes was a new look, more painful than the look of despair; the look of disgust with human beings, with life; the look of hatred. And it was odd what the look of hatred did. It gave him, for the first time, the look of a beast. And what that meant was that he had put up a barrier within to protect himself from further violence; and all the apples in the world wouldn’t change that fact. [Course anthology, p 245E]

Joaquin Phoenix refers to people who reply “don’t tell me, you’ll spoil my dinner” when informed what the animal went through before it got on their plate. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39R2mvifdjE&feature=related] It seems similar to the reasoning I often hear when I confront a racist with just why it is they are racist.

“Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we out to do as well to determine what we shall do. On the one hand, the standard of right and wrong, on the other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne.” [Bentham NO PAGE]

[I] felt like asking our previous president a quote directly from the book, “What do you do, roam around killing people and telling yourself they’re androids?”

That is, if we’re taking a parallelistic approach. . .

Walker mentions ‘freedom’ and ‘justice’ before he alludes to justice and includes misery in the same paragraph.

Therein lies the only one parallel that can be drawn from this inhumane treatment.

It seems we live in a fantasy we live in is animals want to be slaughtered, as long as we treat them nicely and led them roam our nice green field–before their trip to the slaughter house.

Because while we may not be making many strides as far as animal rights, we have indeed made some positive steps towards overcoming racial barriers by electing Barak Obama.

Amanda Jane:

“By analogy with racism and sexism, the term “speciesism” is a prejudice or attitude of bias in favor of the interests of members of one’s own species and against those of members of other species.” (Earthlings p.162)

Like human, horses are “in fact completed creations (at least they seem to be, so much more than we) who are not likely to change; it is their nature to express themselves.. and they are ignored”(Walker p.245D or pg.5)

his eyes what Walker identified as “a look so piercing, so full of grief, a look so human” (Walker p.245e or pg.7)

“He used to–when he was just a kitten–stand and stare up at us as if asking a question. We never understood what the question was.” (Dick pg.80)

Who are we [humans] to lay such a deep grief upon another complete creation.

that all animals would ask if they could speak, “Why am I yours what if instead you were mine? ”

In just the same way the animals that humans enslave, abuse, and ignore know that they are getting the short end of the stick on life… and for what purpose?

Justin:

“They are in fact completed creatures (at least they seem to be, so much more than we) who are not likely to change; it is their nature to express themselves” (Walker, 245D).

“Humans, therefore, being not the only species on the planet, share this world with millions of other living creatures, as we all evolve here together” (Earthlings, 161)

“I have been sent here to administer a standard personality-profile test to you” (Dick, 100).

“It may come one day to be recognized, that the number of the legs, the villosity of the skin, or the termination of the os sacrum, are reasons equally insufficient for abandoning a sensitive being to the same fate” (Bentham, 245A)

The question I pose to you is, have we really changed much between slavery of humans and now the slavery of animals?

Me:

“But is there any reason why we should be suffered to torment them?” (Bentham, 245A).

“On the other hand, the synthetic sufferings of false animals didn’t bother Milt Borogrove or their boss Hannibal Sloat” (Dick, 72).

“According to M-Mercer…a-all life returns. The cycle is c-c-complete for a-a-animals too. I mean, we all ascend with him, die–” (Dick 78).

“Tell that to the guy that owned this cat” (78).

“There is only one cat like Horace. He used to–when he was just a kitten–stand and stare up at us as if asking a question. We never understood what the question was. Maybe he knows the answer…I guess we all will eventually” (Dick 80).

“They are in fact completed creations (at least they seem to be, so much more than we) who are not likely to change; it is their nature to express themselves” (Walker 245D).

“I think you’re right; it would seem we lack a specific talent you humans possess. I believe it’s called empathy” (Dick 124).

Were we “told they [we] must “forget” the deep levels of communication between themselves [ourselves] and “mammy” ” (Walker 245D)

“In a way, he realized, I’m part of the form-destroying process of entropy” (Dick 98).

“Everything you do to us [animals] will happen to you; we are your teachers, as you are ours. We are one lesson” (Walker 245E)

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~ by dadaniel on February 5, 2009.

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